Daedalus Daedalusis the official Cardano wallet built by IOHK. Esse comentrio foi removido por um moderador 24/01/2018 [RR53] RR. Sponsored by Forbes What is the easiest way to avoid overpaying for car insurance? Remember to stack Daedelus for maximum efficiency. Hello Guys. 1 2 Next Last Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? in General Discussion. Daedalus is only a marginal increase in DPS (~5-6%) but you don't get the true strike MKB gives, or the mini-bash which is the most important part. I'm sure there is a place for it situationally. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. If Daedalus is the best item available to you, you're probably better off growing a pair of balls and picking up a rapier. DPS increase from your crit = 52.5% In these 500 hits, 13% of them crit with her ultimate, and 28% crit with a daedalus. in General Discussion. daedalus is the best raw DPS item on pa even when you factor in that it will give 85%(actually more since 81 dmg bonus will always work) of it's "normal" DPS, i don't even know a hero who would get more DPS from an mkb rather than crit(if u don't count in evasion ofc) DPS increase from crits when you have lvl 3 ult and daedalus = 83.1%. I mean, PA without diffusal (or satyr) is terrible even against an ethereal blade or ghost scepter carrier to begin with and people who have any brains will build against PA which is really easy to do if you can stop her momentum and farm up. 2016. I'm Kryptonill Who Really Love DotA 2. Any thoughts? 11/09/2016. Ten komentarz zosta usunity przez moderatora 24-01-2018 [RR53] RR. with buying the daedalus however i would get bloodthorn over deso, same reason why AM doesn't get blink dagger. I have seen so many retards in 3k blaming their team for the loss, when they'd just played the "battlefury PA" going into lategame against spectres and medusas of the world. Fairly mobile. Zen1n. 11-09-2016. not for the heroes with natural crits. Any thoughts? range, illusion, can tear down buildings and supports. Remember to stack Daedelus for maximum efficiency. yes you get it after bkb and abyssal if you don't need linkens or another item, Daedalus and pa crits apply independently, 93% winrate pa player here, daedalus is Excellent, only conflict is that if both crits proc in 1 hit u will only get the bigger crit : ur ult, careful dude u get it after ur core items not right away, so go something like phase vlad deso basher bkb abyssal then daedalus, or treads domi bfury bkb basher abyssal daedalus, as long as u have basher + bkb before you go crit u will be very safe, ive done it with crit before bkb and it works if u are very careful only. You deal 246dmg/hit @ 0.78s/atk for 315dps * 52.5% (ulti) = 480.4dps, ~ Daedalus ~ I think it is worth it, since you'll have a much higher chance to crit overall. i don't know why people consider retarded deso on pa if you're going with lifesteal build, daedalus can fit in if you don't need mkb, but still wouldn't recommend in most situation though.. if u get 2 daedelus,almost all hits are crits :P. In most games you will need AC or MKB more. 09. id suggest not getting any of those in this scenario, though. in short, never going for daed on pa, and only get mkb against evasion. Instantly closing in on a target, she effortlessly dodges attacks as she relentlessly cuts away at her foe. This Video Shows: How to Get Unlimited Crit Rate and Easy 1 Shot Everyone with Daedalus Overpower Build. Seriously, when is this blyat dagger going to be nerfed? I recently conducted a little test of 500 auto attacks in a lobby with Phantom assassin with a Daedalus. DPS increase from crits when you have lvl 3 ult and daedalus = 83.1%. daedalus is the best raw DPS item on pa even when you factor in that it will give 85%(actually more since 81 dmg bonus will always work) of it's "normal" DPS, i don't even know a hero who would get more DPS from an mkb rather than crit(if u don't count in evasion ofc) 327dmg/hit @ 0.78s/atk for 419.2dps * 84.17% (ulti + daedalus) = 772.0dps, ~ Monkey King Bar ~ Daedalus on P.a? Elusive (Relying on a % base chance isn't a particularly reliable way to play the game, however does increase survivability of a lot of other synergies.) So basically as far as attacking buildings goes, PA will have a typical support DPS against them and we aren't talking lvl 7 jakiro here. Cinder. D the Superior. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Item_passive_stacking#Chance_stacking. All in all i think even a moon shard can give more dmg than a daedalus sometimes, but sometimes it is a good item with high base attck dmg. I have seen so many retards in 3k blaming their team for the loss, when they'd just played the "battlefury PA" going into lategame against spectres and medusas of the world. DPS increase from your crit = 52.5% General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? This leads me to believe that the ultimate crit (450%) is rolled. You can Sign in with Steam to see your Dota 2 profile. bloodthrone costs 2x of deso and pa scales into lategame terribly, so u see good players usually going for cheap agressive items - deso, vlads, basher, eventually even armlet; and trying to end the game asap. ^^ DAEDALUS PHANTOM ASSASSIN DOTA 2 PATCH 7.06 NEW META PRO GAMEPLAYITEMS BUILT : 3xDAEDALUS 1xBOOTS OF TRAVEL 1xBLIGHT STONE 1xPHASE BOOTS 1xBOTTLESKILL TREE :. Ive seen alot of phantom assassin players lately have been getting deadalus. ^^ Any thoughts? Daedalus is +dmg and +%dps (the crit) MKB is +dmg and %chance for +dmg. Same for Spells and Items data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAKAAAAB4CAYAAAB1ovlvAAADOUlEQVR4Xu3XQUpjYRCF0V9RcOIW3I8bEHSgBtyJ28kmsh5x4iQEB6/BWQ . Support from Plus members keep Dotabuff running and help enable us to deliver new features for everyone. D the Superior. Daedalus is not that good on her since the crit doesn't stack. 2018. I have seen so many retards in 3k blaming their team for the loss, when they'd just played the "battlefury PA" going into lategame against spectres and medusas of the world. why daedalus ? ste comentario fue eliminado por un moderador 2018-01-24 [RR53] RR. Spells are almost always picked up before the item and get priority Daedalus gives you about 20% more DPS(not taking the +81 damage into account), while it would give 36% more DPS to a hero without any other crit. 1 2 Next Last Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? 11. 11/09/2016. you have 0.85*0.25=0.2125= 21% for proccing daedalus crit MKB > Daedalus unless for some reason you really need 5-6% dps over ALL the utility that MKB gives you. HolyPanda. She's suit with Desolator. as u can see the above bluestar fangay has 45% pa winrate and is 300 mmr aboveme. 09. not for the heroes with natural crits. in General Discussion. 312dmg/hit @ 0.73s/atk for 427.4dps * 52.5% (ulti) = 651.785dps + (56/0.73)dps (mkb bonus bash dmg) = 728.5dps. Daedalus on P.a? Abilities Stifling Dagger Q D Targeting Unit Target Affects Enemy Units Damage Type Physical if you're going with lifesteal build, daedalus can fit in if you don't need mkb, but still wouldn't recommend in most situation though.. if u get 2 daedelus,almost all hits are crits :P. In most games you will need AC or MKB more. You deal 246dmg/hit @ 0.78s/atk for 315dps * 52.5% (ulti) = 480.4dps, ~ Daedalus ~ 11/09/2016. did yer ult got silenced or smthing ? ^^ In these 500 hits, 13% of them crit with her ultimate, and 28% crit with a daedalus. Pa ult gives a Bonus of 450% for 15% so avrg is 67,5% Bonus Without warning, any one of her attacks could prove suddenly and brutally fatal. So in the end of the day what I'm trying to say is.. the item is a waste of gold although it provides equitably of dmg.. go for something better.. heck even deso does more for her than daedalus imo.. and it costs way cheaper.. holy shit high mmr dudes are commenting here. You can buy the daedalus if you are really that ahead and don't give two shits. Stop Daedalus, open and elevated command prompt and type: mklink /J C:\Users\YOURUSER\AppData\Roaming\Daedalus D:\Daedalus. This attack applies any attack modifier she has on the target, following their regular stacking rules, except for critical strike, cleave, quell and lifesteal. as u can see the above bluestar fangay has 45% pa winrate and is 300 mmr aboveme. I'd use directory junction ( aka. Malestrom is a cheap (but good( alternative to battlefury in this regard as it lets you push lanes more effectively, and deso will let you take down towers as well. Same for Spells and Items Daedalus will only crit on the 85% of hits she doesn't get a crit off her ult, so you can think of it as having a 21.25% chance of getting a crit instead of 25%. Yes it provides dmg.. but PA usually already has the dmg.. what she needs is a way to survive battles and lock downs sometimes.. what items like bkb,abbysal can provide.. Cons Weak disable. x6 Daedalus Phantom Assassin 100% Crit By Goodwin 55 Kills | Dota 2 GameplayWelcome to my channel Dota StationDota 2 Wtf Moments Pro Game Play BugsHere the f. in General Discussion. This comment was removed by a moderator 2018-01-24 [RR53] RR. So instead of spending a ton of gold for a Daedalus which will certainly improve your damage by a ton, go for vlads/deso build so you can take down towers and have sustain on the map. You can cancel channels (TPs) as well as interrupt spell casts and attacks (you might think this is marginal but it might be the difference in taking 1-2 less auto attacks from a carry dealing 300dmg/hit) and not to mention the bash stops movement temporarily so you can get an extra hit in someone who is running away. well cookie you cant really stop a guy from wanting to see red thunderbolts with ominous numbers beside them with every hit his hero does. So doesn't that mean that daedalus PA is just a +81 dmg item? I mean, PA without diffusal (or satyr) is terrible even against an ethereal blade or ghost scepter carrier to begin with and people who have any brains will build against PA which is really easy to do if you can stop her momentum and farm up. Otherwise, you should probably be getting something to keep you alive/lock down the enemy. Additionally, Plus members never see any advertisements. So doesn't that mean that daedalus PA is just a +81 dmg item? Malestrom is a cheap (but good( alternative to battlefury in this regard as it lets you push lanes more effectively, and deso will let you take down towers as well. But keep in mind that, after you kill all the heroes, you need to take down towers and win the game until their carries start getting online and start buying MKBs to wreck your face (oh and supports will buy ghost scepters unless they are retarded). I thought that the ways crits worked in dota was that it took the higher percentage crit and only used that one. Zen1n. It's like ber situational and you folks are making a fuss out of it. in General Discussion. you can't have 2 independent sources of crit, what happens is game will run the chance for first one, let's say x% chance, if that fails then it goes to 2nd and the 2nd has an y% chance to proc. with buying the daedalus Daedalus on P.a? 2016. however both crits cannot proc on the same atack.. Daedalus on P.a? did yer ult got silenced or smthing ? well cookie you cant really stop a guy from wanting to see red thunderbolts with ominous numbers beside them with every hit his hero does. daedalus is the best raw DPS item on pa even when you factor in that it will give 85% (actually more since 81 dmg bonus will always work) of it's "normal" DPS i don't even know a hero who would get more DPS from an mkb rather than crit (if u don't count in evasion ofc) i think even if u get 2 daedali on jugg it will give more dps than daed+mkb Zen1n. mealstrom+skadi Daedalus is only a marginal increase in DPS (~5-6%) but you don't get the true strike MKB gives, or the mini-bash which is the most important part. So in the end of the day what I'm trying to say is.. the item is a waste of gold although it provides equitably of dmg.. go for something better.. heck even deso does more for her than daedalus imo.. and it costs way cheaper.. holy shit high mmr dudes are commenting here. i alrdy did the maths. Yes, but it also means dagger can crit with this item as well, one shotting yet another unsuspecting soul trying to get some farming done. As a reward, some features that are difficult or expensive to operate are available only to Plus members. Compared to the 122 avrg Bonus dmg of mkb and+ 15 attck Speed i think the daedalus cN be a build on a pa with stats Items like skadi or even Butter does the crit stack with her ultimate? however, u need to keep in mind the mini bash effect (i calculated the dmg, but didnt account on the importance of this thing by itself - cancelling tps and channelling spells, stopping targets from running for a moment, etc.) Daedalus on P.a? Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? then if the 15% chance is not rolled, it will roll the 30% chance for a crit (220%) of a daedalus. Most people end up going for one of the other big +dmg items like MKB or abyssal because of this, especially with the interaction of their on-hit effects and phantom strike. Both can't prok in 1 Hit so if skadi gets picked up before it will always be the skadi, but if the mealstrom is first u can get the mealstrom, if not u have a 100% Chance on the skadi ROFL. Cinder. 1v1 wise pa. teamfight carry wise tb hands down. 2014-11-24. 11-09-2016. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. DPS increase from your crit = 52.5% YOURUSER = Your Windows User running Daedalus. I recently conducted a little test of 500 auto attacks in a lobby with Phantom assassin with a Daedalus. 2018 [RR53] RR. High burst damage. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 01. D the Superior. 2016-09-11. did yer ult got silenced or smthing ? Compared to the 122 avrg Bonus dmg of mkb and+ 15 attck Speed i think the daedalus cN be a build on a pa with stats Items like skadi or even Butter If Daedalus is the best item available to you, you're probably better off growing a pair of balls and picking up a rapier. it works on pa just like any other hero, but you get 4% decreased crit chance ROFL. otherwise, go for desolator, basher, and ac/moonshard. . 1 2 Next Last Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? they won't increase each other's damage at all, it increases only from the stats you'd get from those items. Her damage burst is dependent on pseudo-random distribution. It can be somewhat decent as a 6th item if the enemy team has no evasion hero or any butterfly carrier, solar crest or whatever, in that case mkb is always gonna be superior. 2016-09-11. I guess it's ok when you think her crit is too random and unreliable. 11.09.2016. It's garbage. In these 500 hits, 13% of them crit with her ultimate, and 28% crit with a daedalus. Remember to stack Daedelus for maximum efficiency. 3rd daedalus will be worse even for heroes without crits. Daedalus gives 220% Bonus for 30% so avrg 66%dmg +81dmg(pa crit isnt actually better on avrg) 11-09-2016. Any thoughts? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. in General Discussion. Eg. what this means is that, even though there are diminishing returns in terms of % percentage (you never get 100% even with 6 daedali), you still get more damage from each daedalus alone, that (in most cases) makes up for the difference, unless you really have some crazy damage amount where percentage loss is greater than the raw +81 gain (might If you get some attack speed and desolator you can actually push towers and end the game before shit hits the fan (aka everyone gets ways to counter you. A 1v1 doesnt really tell their dps difference because of sven's superior health and warcry giving +20 armour. MARLAN. bloodthrone costs 2x of deso and pa scales into lategame terribly, so u see good players usually going for cheap agressive items - deso, vlads, basher, eventually even armlet; and trying to end the game asap. Cookie Notice ~ Neither Item ~ You need to do it on the same target. You can buy the daedalus if you are really that ahead and don't give two shits. For maximum dps sven needs daedalus and both need at least one attack speed item (moon shard/AC). But keep in mind that, after you kill all the heroes, you need to take down towers and win the game until their carries start getting online and start buying MKBs to wreck your face (oh and supports will buy ghost scepters unless they are retarded). they won't increase each other's damage at all, it increases only from the stats you'd get from those items. Daedalus on P.a? Same for Spells and Items 2016-09-11. This leads me to believe that daedalus on Phantom Assassin is.. actually viable. 09. I mean, PA without diffusal (or satyr) is terrible even against an ethereal blade or ghost scepter carrier to begin with and people who have any brains will build against PA which is really easy to do if you can stop her momentum and farm up. ^^value input right there boiz, case closed, Bec im bored i'll do the math Both can't prok in 1 Hit so if skadi gets picked up before it will always be the skadi, but if the mealstrom is first u can get the mealstrom, if not u have a 100% Chance on the skadi This leads me to believe that the ultimate crit (450%) is rolled. 2016-09-11. Any thoughts? Daedalus gives +70 damage and makes the crits more consistent significantly decreasing the time to kill a single unit. Does not stop Phantom Assassin from targeting and using the spell. Therefore, i assume ur saying which carry will perform better in teamfight which obviously will be terrorblade. and our Daedalus can be installed on Windows, macOS, or Linux. well cookie you cant really stop a guy from wanting to see red thunderbolts with ominous numbers beside them with every hit his hero does. . Eg. actually nvm. Pathetic waveclear. 24. 2016-09-11. D the Superior. ~ Neither Item ~ . The dagger carries all the attack modifiers like. i sat down and calculated all the stuff, turns out that for the case of pa daedalus gives u 2-5% higher dps, so as long as you are not playing against any heroes with butterfly, radiance, solar crest, halebard, or natural evasion (which is quite a rare case by itself), daedalus is better. the only thing which is stacking is the chance to get a crit. Daedalus on P.a? Same for pa+daedalus ^^value input right there boiz, case closed, Bec im bored i'll do the math So basically as far as attacking buildings goes, PA will have a typical support DPS against them and we aren't talking lvl 7 jakiro here. General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? 11/09/2016. Compared to the 122 avrg Bonus dmg of mkb and+ 15 attck Speed i think the daedalus cN be a build on a pa with stats Items like skadi or even Butter I thought that the ways crits worked in dota was that it took the higher percentage crit and only used that one. I guess it's ok when you think her crit is too random and unreliable. Any thoughts? Hard Link). If you are ahead and you don't need utility items it gives you the best dps/cost aside from rapier. Like, PA gets her damage from crit and attack speed from blink strike, but how does it work with buildings? It can be somewhat decent as a 6th item if the enemy team has no evasion hero or any butterfly carrier, solar crest or whatever, in that case mkb is always gonna be superior. Both can't prok in 1 Hit so if skadi gets picked up before it will always be the skadi, but if the mealstrom is first u can get the mealstrom, if not u have a 100% Chance on the skadi then if the 15% chance is not rolled, it will roll the 30% chance for a crit (220%) of a daedalus. Seriously, when is this blyat dagger going to be nerfed? 3rd daedalus will be worse even for heroes without crits. 11.09.2016. i'm too lazy to do the math atm yho. (NP) Captain Charisma Mar 15, 2015 @ 8:33am hey Dominic! 1 2 Next Last Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? however, u need to keep in mind the mini bash effect (i calculated the dmg, but didnt account on the importance of this thing by itself - cancelling tps and channelling spells, stopping targets from running for a moment, etc.) crits do stack.. for example, if u buy 2 daedalus' then ur chance of crit increases from 25% for 1 daedalus to 43.75% ( 25% + 25% of the remaining 75% of the atttacks). General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? id suggest not getting any of those in this scenario, though. 09. ^ Its not worth it to ever spend so much gold on something the hero has innately.. same reason I would get daedalus on wk or jugg.. This feature is only available to Dotabuff Plus members. In this way you don't have to modify any config file in Daedalus. in General Discussion. It is in most cases better for your carry to kill faster than to live longer because killing enemy pieces already makes yours last longer because reasons. Manta/Diffusal would likely be better for MKB and close the gap more. MKB > Daedalus unless for some reason you really need 5-6% dps over ALL the utility that MKB gives you. With both the daedalus has a 25,5% Chance to proc(85%x30%), this gives a avrg of 56,1% Bonus dmg +81 dmg If you are ahead and you don't need utility items it gives you the best dps/cost aside from rapier. however, u need to keep in mind the mini bash effect (i calculated the dmg, but didnt account on the importance of this thing by itself - cancelling tps and channelling spells, stopping targets from running for a moment, etc.) Attack speed benefits MKB more than Daeadlus. PMS . 11. 01. Pa ult gives a Bonus of 450% for 15% so avrg is 67,5% Bonus This feature is only available to Dotabuff Plus members. It doesn't. General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? D the Superior. The proc chance of multiple crit sources stack, the damage multiplicator do not. 11/09/2016. General DiscussionDaedalus on Phantom Assassin? I recently conducted a little test of 500 auto attacks in a lobby with Phantom assassin with a Daedalus. So doesn't that mean that daedalus PA is just a +81 dmg item? I'm sure there is a place for it situationally. It's garbage. First Prev 1 2 Daedalus on Phantom Assassin? D:\Daedalus = Your path where you will store the Daedalus folder. i don't know why people consider retarded deso on pa 2016. 2016-09-11. A weapon of incredible power that is difficult for even the strongest of warriors to control. actually nvm. daedalus is the best raw DPS item on pa even when you factor in that it will give 85%(actually more since 81 dmg bonus will always work) of it's "normal" DPS, i don't even know a hero who would get more DPS from an mkb rather than crit(if u don't count in evasion ofc) 2016. The dagger causes Phantom Assassin to perform an instant attack. MARLAN. Makes use of pseudo-random distribution. D the Superior. yes you get it after bkb and abyssal if you don't need linkens or another item, Daedalus and pa crits apply independently, 93% winrate pa player here, daedalus is Excellent, only conflict is that if both crits proc in 1 hit u will only get the bigger crit : ur ult, careful dude u get it after ur core items not right away, so go something like phase vlad deso basher bkb abyssal then daedalus, or treads domi bfury bkb basher abyssal daedalus, as long as u have basher + bkb before you go crit u will be very safe, ive done it with crit before bkb and it works if u are very careful only. HolyPanda. Yes, but it also means dagger can crit with this item as well, one shotting yet another unsuspecting soul trying to get some farming done. So basically as far as attacking buildings goes, PA will have a typical support DPS against them and we aren't talking lvl 7 jakiro here. Like, PA gets her damage from crit and attack speed from blink strike, but how does it work with buildings? without a damage item she doesn't deal well with 3 star units in my opinion. Este comentario ha sido borrado 2016-09-11. Zen1n. ROFL. In general, Stifling Dagger is a good ability to get last-hits with, as its long cast range lets Phantom Assassin kill enemy creeps outside of harass range. Seriously, when is this blyat dagger going to be nerfed? it wont work for 2nd daedalus. Luxon 2015-08-11 Eg. If Daedalus is the best item available to you, you're probably better off growing a pair of balls and picking up a rapier. Ce commentaire a t supprim par un modrateur 24/01/2018 [RR53] RR. Otherwise, you should probably be getting something to keep you alive/lock down the enemy. MARLAN. masquerade ball outfits kids terraria items that increase ranged damage they won't increase each other's damage at all, it increases only from the stats you'd get from those items. Support from Plus members keep Dotabuff running and help enable us to deliver new features for everyone. i think even if u get 2 daedali on jugg it will give more dps than daed+mkb First off all attck modifiers work the same i think with buying the daedalus in short, never going for daed on pa, and only get mkb against evasion. [RR53] RR. otherwise, go for desolator, basher, and ac/moonshard. D the Superior. Fray Vicente Solano 4-31 y Florencia Astudillo It cannot miss to evasion or blindness either. Extremely weak/useless when unfarmed and/or when played from behind. Spells are almost always picked up before the item and get priority
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